Gold Price Manipulation Masks Potential for Gold Demand Shock
Q and A
with James Rickards
By Robert Stowe England
James G. Rickards
is a lawyer, economist and investment banker with 35 years of experience in
capital markets on Wall Street. His new book The Death of Money, published by the Penguin Group, is a New York Times bestseller. His first book, Currency Wars, published in 2011, and was also a Times bestseller. In his new book, he
explores further the consequences of the weak dollar policy pursued by the
Federal Reserve Bank, coupled with the huge run up in deficits and debt by the
United States, and the failure of Congress and the Obama Administration to
devise policies that would spur faster economic growth. Rickards is a
portfolio manager at West Shore Group, LLC, Haddonfield, N.J., an
investment fund set up in 2013, and an adviser on international economics
and financial threats to the Department of Defense and the U.S.
intelligence community. He gained first-hand experience on the front lines of a
financial crisis as counsel for the hedge fund Long-Term Capital Management,
when he was principal negotiator in the 1998 bailout of the fund by the Federal
Reserve Bank of New York.
Q: Another thing I found intriguing
in your book is the discussion of how gold prices have been manipulated to keep
the price low to facilitate a stealth rebalancing of gold reserves from the
west to the east, especially China. Obviously the central bankers know about
this. How could they not? The price
manipulation has been done by selling numerous paper investments backed by same
stash of gold in unallocated and leased sales. Could you explain how underlying
stresses in the system could lead to a gold buying panic?
Rickards: Well all these things are
connected. They kind of work hand in glove. What’s the big thing that’s going
on? The big thing that’s going on is that China needs to get gold. And Russia’s
getting gold and other central banks are acquiring gold. But the 800 pound
gorilla, if you will, is China rebalancing gold away from the west to China – a
very well known story, very well documented. But the question is why and how.
What’s going on here? Why is it being done? How is it being done? And that’s
where the price manipulation comes in. Because if the price of gold took off,
if there was sort of a buying panic, if you will, [it would create a] buying
shock. I talked with the head commodities trader at one of the largest banks in
the world. He told me that he’s looking for what he calls is a demand shock in
China. The Chinese credit pyramid is clearly imploding, which I talk about in
Chapter 4 of the book. [“China’s New Financial Warlords”]
When you look at the Chinese, they
have a closed capital account so [the Chinese people] can’t buy stocks and
bonds [outside of China]. The Shanghai stock market is a bit dismal. The real
estate is the thing that’s going to collapse. And the banks pay them 25 basis
points on savings. So you look around and say what the heck can I buy that will
preserve wealth? And the answer is gold. And this is beginning already in
certain ways but it will accelerate. So when this crash comes, it’s again a
demand shock and that’s exactly right.
Now, China’s problem is they have
the fastest growing economy in the world. Even with the problems and even with
the slowdown it’s still the fastest growing economy in the world as a percent
of global GDP. So, think about the right reserve mix of gold at the market
price as a percentage of GDP, which is what I talk about in the book. It’s in
that Chapter 9 [“Gold Redux”] and Chapter 11 [“Maelstrom”]. If you think about
it, China is a moving target. No matter how much gold they buy, they have to
keep buying more, first of all to reach the same ratio as the United States and
they are not quite there yet – and then to maintain it because their economy is
growing faster than the United States. That means they are going to buy more
gold just to keep the ratio the same. If you combine that with a rising price,
all of sudden the price goes to $2,000, $2,500, $3,000 et cetera, this gets to
be out of reach.
I’ve got a moving target in the
quantity. Now I’ve got a moving target in the price. Things are getting away
from me. Things become more transparent as the buying power [decreases] so
China might not ever got there. So dynamically they have to keep the lid on the
price until the rebalancing is done. Then, at the point it doesn’t matter. So
wherever the price goes, China’s on the bus. This is all about making sure
China’s on the bus.
Q: What about all the paper gold?
What role does that play?
Rickards: The leasing and the
unallocated gold, and the paper gold and the gold futures and all that, those
are the tools for price depression. By the way I don’t believe or I’ve
certainly not seen any evidence that major banks are taking position risks to
make this happen. They are just intermediaries. They are making spread. They
are charging commissions. They are doing what the customer wants but the
customer happens to be the BIS (Bank for International Settlements]. And it’s
mentioned in the book and documented in the footnotes from BIS financial
statements that they do transact with banks and central banks and commercial
operations in gold leasing operations. So, if the customer happens to be the
BIS, you are going to do what the customer wants.
So it’s coming from the central
banks [who created the BIS and are its constituency]. So, that’s the price
depression [of gold]. And, by the way there’s more and more statistical
evidence coming out. And I’m sure you heard about the study at Stern School of
Business at NYU [New York University]. [The authors of the draft research paper
are Rosa Abrantes-Metz of New York University and Albert Metz, a managing
director at Moody’s Investors Service.] I haven’t seen it because it’s not
published yet, but I’ve seen some excerpts and synopsis that indicates that
there’s powerful statistical evidence that gold is being manipulated.
I’ve also spoken to another guy, a Ph.D. statistician for a major billion-dollar
hedge fund and who is not a gold bug. He did the work and reached the same
conclusion [the gold prices are being manipulated]. He did a 10-year price
study of [changes in gold prices] on Comex [the Commodity Exchange, a division
of the New York Mercantile Exchange] during trading hours versus after hours.
When you’re talking about markets and statistics, those two accounts should be
the same. But the answer was they weren’t anywhere near the same. The Comex [during
working hours] actually performed dismally and the after hours account did
multiples what actual gold did. There’s no explanation for that other than the
manipulation of the Comex. And he agreed with me that is the right conclusion.
So the evidence is everywhere [of
manipulation of gold prices] and it’s all designed to keep the price of gold
low until China gets the gold they need to be on the bus and you kind of go
from there. What has been surprising is that utter nonchalance of the U.S.
government. Because I’ve gone down to senior officials in the Pentagon, the
intelligence community and the Treasury and elsewhere and in Washington with a
little bit of alarm saying, hey, do you know what the Chinese are doing? Do you
see what’s going on here? The reaction is they are either completely
non-plussed or they were unaware of it or they are aware of and they don’t see
why it’s such a big deal.
But let me explain why it is a big deal – not for just geopolitical geostrategic reason I just mentioned, but in terms of the technical set up for where gold is going to go from here. If you think of stocks and flows in round numbers there are about 35,000 tonnes of official gold in the world and about 177,000 tonnes of total gold. And mining output is quite small. All the mining in the world increases the total stock by about a little over one percent a year. So, it’s a factor but it’s not a big factor.
So when 500 metric tonnes of gold
moves from a GLD warehouse to China’s government vaults in Shanghai – which it
did last year, by almost a straight line with a stop in Switzerland just to get
re-refined. But, when gold does that, a lot of analysts look at that and say,
well, so what? It was in a vault in London. Now it’s in a vault in Shanghai. They
just turned it from a 400-ounce bar to a kilo bar. Whatever. It’s the same
gold. It moved from one vault to another. Who cares? And that’s kind of where
the national alarm comes from.
But here’s the difference. When
gold moves from the GLD warehouse to the government vault in Shanghai, there is
no change in the total supply, but there is a diminution in the floating
supply. The floating supply is that portion of the total stock that’s available
for trading. So, if I’m in GLD or I’m in a bullion bank and I’m a UBS, that
gold is available for the kind of paper trading we just talked about. But if
you put it in private storage, you put in a Chinese government vault, it’s not
available for paper trading. It’s just gold being put away. Well, that’s
exactly what’s going on.
If you think of the gold market as
an inverted pyramid, and on the bottom there are a couple of bricks of gold.
And then in the inverted pyramid on the top you have all the paper gold. So, it
would be leasing, unallocated sales, Comex futures which totals up to 100 to 1
[paper claims against each a portion of physical gold]. That’s OK. That’s not
unlike other derivatives markets. But if you start pulling the gold bricks, the
gold out from the bottom you’re going to topple the pyramid. At least you’re
going to force that pyramid to shrink.
And that’s what’s going on. Total
gold supply is not changing. The floating supply is changing. And that means
less gold to support the paper trading. And that means one of two things is
going to happen. If you keep the paper trading just as big, you are going to
destabilize it. If you shrink it, it’s going to increase the price of gold.
Either way we’re in for some interesting times.
Q: Does Washington recognize that
China is trying to assure its place in any future international monetary system
by acquiring this gold? Do they at least recognize that?
Rickards: The only really top-level
official I’m spoken to who does recognize that and thinks it’s fine is Min Zhu,
deputy director at the IMF. I’ve spoken
with him and he says that just makes sense to him. By extension it makes sense
to the IMF. Because he used a phrase – I was shocked to hear him say it – they make
a distinction between what they call credit reserves and real reserves. That is
exactly the right way to put it [meaning paper money is considered credit
reserves, a claim on the central bank standing behind it]. But I was shocked to
hear anyone say it; because who thinks that paper money is credit reserves? I
do. But I’m not sure many other analysts do. Min Zhu said clearly China is, in
effect – and these aren’t his exact worlds – is overweight paper and
underweight gold. And so they ought to get some gold. So he could see it for
what it was and he thought it made a lot of sense. Why does it matter – unless we’re
somehow going rewrite rules of the game and gold plays a role? Because if we
weren’t going to do that and gold didn’t play a role, then it wouldn’t matter.
But Min Zhu clearly thinks it does.
Now, on the U.S. government side,
people in the Pentagon are interested [in what’s happening with China’s
accumulation of gold and what it might represent], but they feel constrained in
what they can do because they don’t want to mess with Treasury. And that’s the
other thing people don’t understand. The think of the U.S. government as a
monolith with a single point of view and nothing could be further from the
truth. The U.S. government is an octopus with eight legs and every leg is
dancing to a different tune. And so, the Pentagon is kind of concerned but they
feel they can’t really say anything because that’s the Treasury’s job. Over at
the Treasury I’ve spoken to a number of people there. The risk people there, it
doesn’t even factor in, that’s the kind of thing we were talking about earlier.
Well, the Fed, it’s just not in their mental frame. [I am not sure where key
current and former top Treasury officials stand,] people like Lael Brainard,
[the former Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs] or Secretary
[Jack] Lew. [As for former Treasury] Secretary [Timothy] Geithner, well he is
an IMF guy. His training, his experience, is all in the areas we’re talking
about. I haven’t spoken with him. I
can’t read his mind, but I have some difficulty believing he doesn’t understand
it and doesn’t somehow approve [China’s accumulation of significant gold
reserves]. Certainly, the U.S. is in a position to stop it and we’re not
stopping it. So, somehow, at least in principle he must think it’s OK.
Q: I guess the point of all of this is that if the dollar is in a crisis and some of the scenarios unfold that you talk about in Chapter 11 [“Maelstrom”], then China is going to have a say in the design of the next international monetary system that emerges and they don’t want the dollar as the world’s leading reserve currency.
Q: I guess the point of all of this is that if the dollar is in a crisis and some of the scenarios unfold that you talk about in Chapter 11 [“Maelstrom”], then China is going to have a say in the design of the next international monetary system that emerges and they don’t want the dollar as the world’s leading reserve currency.
Rickards: They will now [have a say]. I
don’t think that was true four or five years ago. It’s definitely becoming true
and I think that’s what’s going on. That’s exactly what’s going on. By the way,
there was a secret meeting in Washington [Sunday, April 12] that was a dry run
for Bretton Woods. [The town of Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, was the site for
a July 1944 United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference of delegates from
44 nations. They met to jointly design and sign an agreement to establish a
post-war international monetary system with the dollar, backed-by gold, as the
centerpiece of the new order.] Friday and Saturday [April 10 and 11, 2014] was
the IMF spring meeting. And these finance ministers and central bankers from
all over the world were there. And when they get together they do all these
things. They do G20 on the sideline. They do BRICS on the sidelines And there
all these get-togethers.
Well, on Sunday [April 12, IMF Managing
Director Christine] Lagarde hosted a meeting and the head of the Bank for
International Settlement was there and the head of the Swiss National Bank was
there. And of course senior IMF officials were there. And then, this is all in
a press release [issued the next day by the IMF http://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/pr/2014/pr14170.htm
that reports there were] a number of other prominent economists and officials
were there. But, they didn’t disclose the names. But clearly a mix of senior
national monetary officials and senior bankers and private economist and
academics at a meeting behind closed doors to discuss the future of the
international system.
The title of the seminar was “Monetary
Policy in the New Normal.” What will the rules of the game be once we get into
the post crisis period? Of course I’m the one saying we’re not going to get to
the post-crisis period because we’ve got all the wrong policies. But, be that
as it may, that’s what they were doing. So, it looks like it was a one-day
practice round for a new Bretton Woods.
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